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Title: New forum software
Post by: Jan on March 10, 2005, 11:03:59 AM
Bitte postet hier Anmerkungen und Verbesserungsvorschläge zur neuen Forum-Software.
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Please post any comments and suggestions how to improve the new forum software here.

Jan
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: disparos on March 10, 2005, 11:12:51 AM
At least it's working again!!! :D :lol:

Different layout, but more or less the same functions and usability, so no suggestions from me except for the Google search form. I don't know if I were the only using it, but I used that form hundreds of times and it really helped me.

Thanks for all your hard work!
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: rustynet on March 10, 2005, 11:23:55 AM
Ich war so deprimiert als das Forum für mehrere Tagen nicht erreichbar war.
Als ob ich keine Internet-Verbindung mehr zu Hause habe.
Dieses Forum ist mein lieblings Forum, ich lese fast jede neue Beiträge.  :mrgreen:

Ich finde aber das Forum sieht jetzt gut aus.
Es ist natürlich schade das viele Beiträge verloren sind,
aber ich glaube es wird bald wieder so gut wie damals oder besser sogar.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Jan on March 10, 2005, 11:42:27 AM
Thanks guys...good to have you back too. The google searchbox is back again.

Jan
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: strichcode on March 10, 2005, 02:10:33 PM
Hallo!
Schön, daß Ihr wieder da seid! Hoffentlich ist dieses Forum unknackbar, denn es ist sehr schade, daß so viele Beiträge weg sind. Was hat man nur davon ein support-forum zu hacken??? Ich verstehe sowas nicht.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: JensF on March 10, 2005, 02:54:55 PM
Hi,

ich finde das ganze noch ein wenig gewöhnungsbedürftig aber das ist nicht das schlimmste denke ich.

Ich denke allerdings das ihr jetzt regelmäßig ein Backup eurer Daten machen solltet. Es sind ja alle Beiträge seit 2003 verschwunden was natürlich eine Vielzahl der ganzen Modifikationen ausgemacht hat.

Das muss natürlich erstmal wieder aufgebaut werden. Ich denke ein Backup der Daten alle 2 Wochen sollte schon drin sein.

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 10, 2005, 03:52:19 PM
Hey I hope it still works.. but I have been using the cached version of the old forum......  I hope google keeps it cached.... I know the search engine will now search this forum...

But please dont let google loose the cache...
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: xtase on March 10, 2005, 04:05:38 PM
Ich war ja in letzter Zeit recht wenig online aber wenn ich hier so lese das sogar Modifikationen dadurch abhanden gekommen sind ist das natürlich umso tragischer, man kann nur hoffen das Schreiber eben jener sie so schnell wie möglich wieder zur Verfügung stellen.

@JensF
Ein Update sollte normalerweise täglich erfolgen, auch der Verlust von 2 Wochen kann unter Umständen eine Menge sein. Es gibt auch diverse Möglichkeiten wie cronjobs, die das ganze dann automatisch für dich übernehmen und zu einer bestimmten Zeit eine Datei aufrufen die die ganzen Datenbank dann sichert.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 10, 2005, 04:09:35 PM
Is there away you can provide us with the old google search box from the last forum as it allowed us to see cached forum pages? It seems the new search box doesnt show us anything newer than 2003 cached :(

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: b.o.fan on March 10, 2005, 04:35:29 PM
ja. das mit dem hack von WIZI (oder wie immer der auch heißt) fand ich ziemlich beschissen. weiß einer, wieso man Supportforen hackt??? naja.
wir kriegen das schon irgendwie hin, wa?

Kleine Anregung für´s Forum: Die Sache im alten forum mit dem Aussuchen welche Sprache die User haben. ich meine eine Multi-Language-forumsorftware. verstanden? wohl eher nicht! :? :?

naja. an sonsten mehr backups nötig, wa??
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Jan on March 10, 2005, 04:39:08 PM
@AntiNSA2:
the search box is exactly the same. Seems that Google "updated" the cache  :|

@b.o.fan:
Du kannst die Sprache im Profil ändern: Profil -> Modify Profile -> Account Related Settings
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: b.o.fan on March 10, 2005, 04:45:08 PM
 :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

das habe ich übersehen. ich find dis schade. das ca. 50.000 beiträge weg sind!

kann man da echt nix machen???ß
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Vincent on March 10, 2005, 05:04:28 PM
Hallo Für alle verlorenen Informationen
im google cache ist noch einiges! leider nicht vollständig!

gruss
vincent
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 10, 2005, 05:06:08 PM
God things just keep getting worse... now I can hate google too.

Well I guess its time to head to the mod request board again.

I wonder if everyone else feels as lifeless like myself.

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 10, 2005, 05:10:24 PM
Ah... not sure how much.. but some stuff is still in the cache.



6-2004, etc...
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Chris on March 10, 2005, 05:36:49 PM
But please dont let google loose the cache...
There is no way for anyone to do this except engineers at Google.  Once Google discovers the old links are missing, it automatically invalidates and discards its cache.  This is the way search engines work and there's no way around it
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Jan on March 10, 2005, 05:38:35 PM
If anyone finds old posts/stuff anything and anwhere...just copy it fastly to a texfile and send to me by email. That would be great...

Jan
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Michael on March 10, 2005, 05:57:28 PM
Hallo, ist wirklich schade das so viele Beiträge für immer verloren sind  :(
Ich hoffe sie werden ebenbürtig ersetzt werden und wünsche dem 4homepages-forum immer ein frisches Backup auf dem Server  :D

Gruß, Michael
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Chris on March 11, 2005, 02:40:42 AM
I grabbed a few last Saturday/Sunday when I found the forum was hacked.  Unfortunately there were not that many to be had as the cache was already disappearing.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: giffy007 on March 11, 2005, 12:04:57 PM
WOW didnt you guys have backups ? You Need a new webhost !

I was mostly using the phpnuke mod but also that seems to have gone too after 2003 , wow there was a lot of work there hmmm i expect in all these mods , damm hackers.

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 11, 2005, 12:44:49 PM
I have been thinking about using Dreamboard mod..... is it at all a good alternative to phpBB?

I mean it is 4images?

Im now second guessing using it... I mean Since you added this board rather than Dreamboard maybe you can tell me why you didnt  choose it?
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 11, 2005, 09:40:24 PM
sorry to hear about what happened..
recently my 4images index was defaced due to an exploit in phpbb's old version. I can't believe people can do such damage in purpose. Especially to such a site. From what I hear it is a simple script that searched web for a certain versioned phpbb sites, and automatically run the script and damaged the sites. Thank god mine was only defaced.

I have never seen or heard this forum s/w before, I hope it works well and normally these types of forums are not always the target. If you were going to use paid svc vBB would have been a great choice, but good luck with this, and I surely hope in no time we can restore everything back to the way it was.

I am so mad that some of the great topics were lost.

Quick suggestion, the themes need to be worked on, the default is not so great to the eyes, and not too easy to read some times, the second one seems a little better with blue, but I suggest try to get one with smaller fonts and more organized view.

Good luck to everyone and let's get to work now.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: martrix on March 11, 2005, 11:48:49 PM
If anyone finds old posts/stuff anything and anwhere...just copy it fastly to a texfile and send to me by email. That would be great...

Jan

OK - no problem :)
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 16, 2005, 12:17:07 PM
PhpBB had a great feature to click on a link to show you all of your own posts.... I cant seem to find that feature with this board.......

It is takking to much time for me to search for all my recent posts...Not just the ones with replies....  can you tell me if I am missing it? I cant find my posts without searching:(

And can we set the default automatically to notify you by email for all of your posts that are replied too?

I hate having to set that for each of my posts....

Thanks-

Robert
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on March 16, 2005, 02:37:28 PM
http://www.4homepages.de/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5009;sa=showPosts
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 17, 2005, 03:29:50 AM
It would be nicer if you could access it from the main page without going into the profile.... and also it would be cool if you could see it threaded like in phpbb so you could see the name of the thread and the last person to comment ..... makes things more efficient and easier to read...

I know it sounds like I am complaining about nothing...

Sorry... :|
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on March 17, 2005, 03:41:48 AM
well, just buckmark that link ;) :D

I'm already get used to this forum and I found more positive sides then negative (compare to phpbb)
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Chris on March 17, 2005, 04:24:39 AM
I'm already get used to this forum and I found more positive sides then negative (compare to phpbb)
Ditto  :wink:
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 17, 2005, 03:34:08 PM
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I found more positive sides then negative (compare to phpbb)

and it is not too popular with hackers/scripts.

they try to focus popular and free forums like invision & phpbb.
VBb is another great choice, with superb support, but it needs to be licenced & costs.

This forums seems to be working fine so far with solid performance. *(hoping I won't get  "server not available" error after "POST")  :-p
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 17, 2005, 03:35:21 PM
Oh, and please edit the news on top of the site. With the other theme (that I am using) there is a BOOK on the top of every page.. :) the "News:" section, at least remove it from this style (non-default).
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Chris on March 17, 2005, 07:00:47 PM
Eventually the news item will become outdated and go away.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 17, 2005, 07:31:29 PM
maybe you can fiddle with the theme layout and make the font smaller.. ;)

i got used to it, but in default it is pretty neat, and tucked away with scrollbar,
but on non-default theme, it is right in front.

Like i said, I got used to it. ;)

plus, pls change http://www.4homepages.de/forum/Themes/classic/images/smflogo.gif this logo.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on March 17, 2005, 11:57:07 PM
and it is not too popular with hackers/scripts.
I hope u ment "hacks" not "hackers" :P

Please name atleast one hack/script/mod Jan installed on old phpbb forum :P ;) :D
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 18, 2005, 03:59:05 PM
i actually meant hackers. ;)

I didn't meant the mods that are installed on phpbb itself.

As you know phpbb is very popular among hackers, due it's popularity & some vulnarabilities. They are attracted to it like flies to crap.

You may remember, the previous version of phpbb was wide open to hacks, and therefore to the scripts that included these codes that did macros on all xx.xxx versions. Using this, they can gain access to the root / of the server that /forum is running on.

Now, what I mean with this one is not being too popular, is since this forum s/w is not widely used, there is no point for them to eat their brains out searching for flaws. ;)


Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: sullyirl on March 20, 2005, 10:15:29 PM
Personaly, I dont like the forum software you choose. Why not go with Invision Power Board? Its much neater and modable!

- Sully
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on March 20, 2005, 10:43:34 PM
Personaly, I dont like the forum software you choose. Why not go with Invision Power Board? Its much neater and modable!

- Sully
Last time I've checked IPB is not free...
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: sullyirl on March 20, 2005, 11:55:46 PM
Personaly, I dont like the forum software you choose. Why not go with Invision Power Board? Its much neater and modable!

- Sully
Last time I've checked IPB is not free...

Either was VBulletin.. correct me if im wrong.

- Sully
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on March 21, 2005, 12:38:30 AM
yes, vbulletin is also commertial product - and thats why vbulletin is not used on this forum either...
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: AntiNSA2 on March 21, 2005, 07:16:44 AM
If possible, it would be cool to see the number of replies in the top left corner of this board that way you could know if there were any replies to your posts without having to actually click on the link first :)

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: hyde101 on March 21, 2005, 03:27:57 PM
before requesting any "modifications" you can check to see if it exists here: http://mods.simplemachines.org/index.php?a=search;type=0-

the best feature I found with this SMF, it is so easy to just port from phpbb -or any other board for that matter- into this one seemlesly & pretty quickly. ;) even on a shared db.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: tisi on March 21, 2005, 11:03:05 PM
ich finde es grob fahrlässig von den Forenadmins, dass sie nichts zur Behebung der bekannten Sicherheitslöcher
unternommen haben  :evil:





Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: GAGA on April 02, 2005, 03:51:21 PM
Really sad that nearly all postings since 2003 are lost forever. Strange that the backups are lost too. Didn't your webhoster 1&1 make frequently backups of your data? I don't understand why you didn't made any backups of the SQL Database for years. However, IPB isn't free anymore. Of course you can use the last free version, but you wouldn't be able to update the board. Why don't using vBulletin? I know it isn't free. But you can purchase a lifetime license with the guarantee of having always a good, powerful and secure board software with a great community.

cu
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: godboko on April 05, 2005, 09:51:07 AM
Really sad that nearly all postings since 2003 are lost forever. Strange that the backups are lost too. Didn't your webhoster 1&1 make frequently backups of your data? I don't understand why you didn't made any backups of the SQL Database for years. However, IPB isn't free anymore. Of course you can use the last free version, but you wouldn't be able to update the board. Why don't using vBulletin? I know it isn't free. But you can purchase a lifetime license with the guarantee of having always a good, powerful and secure board software with a great community.

cu

vB is not secure, believe me, I have several clients that use it, it gets hacked as much as PHPBB. And The updates stop after 2 years on there life time deal, so really it isn't a good deal at all. IVB is extremely expensive.

SMF is really the best forum I have seen in years, set up right its much more powerful then phpBB and IVB and is as powerful as vB. Really this is great forum software, would have been happy to see the switch when phpBB went real back with security flaws.

SMF is also much easier to mod then IVB, VB and PHPBB.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: GAGA on April 05, 2005, 06:10:48 PM
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vB is not secure, believe me, I have several clients that use it, it gets hacked as much as PHPBB.

Nothing is 100% safe. In my opinion a vBulletin Board is more secure than a phpBB board. But you are right. VB Boards were being hacked too.

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SMF is really the best forum I have seen in years, set up right its much more powerful then phpBB and IVB and is as powerful as vB. Really this is great forum software, would have been happy to see the switch when phpBB went real back with security flaws.

Personally I don't know SMF Boards. I installed and tried phpBB, IPB and vBulletin. I really like the IPB because it has a really clean sourcecode and it's easy to manage and easy to grasp. phpBB isn't bad, especially cause i'ts free. But you will find the most features in a vBulletin Board. A lot of plugins and mods and thousands of settings.

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SMF is also much easier to mod then IVB, VB and PHPBB.
This is a result of a lower complexety. However, it's always a matter of personal taste. :wink:

cu
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: godboko on April 05, 2005, 07:46:26 PM
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This is a result of a lower complexety.

SMF is no less complex, it has a real mod managmenet system, and depending on how the developer made the mod you can update it via the admin. It's also vary scalable. I am using SMF on a forum with over 100,000 users with 5,000-8,000 avtive users a day. vB was the only other forum that worked, but vB pulled come crap with my purchase anyway, am vary unhappyt as of the last 6 months with vB.

Its good software, but not worth the hassel.
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: martrix on April 05, 2005, 10:34:31 PM
Manche Antworten sind bei mir kurz und bündig... das bedeutetn, dass ich keine halbe Stunde dazu brauche diese zu schreiben...
immer, wenn das so ist, dann bekomme ich diesen sehr störenden Fehler:

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Sie haben den Beitrag gerade erst geschrieben! Vielleicht haben Sie ihn aus Versehen zweimal abgesendet oder die Seite neu geladen.
:evil:
Mir ist das klar! Den Beitrag habe ich geschrieben... da hat SMF recht :wink: aber ich möchte keine 5 Minuten warten, bis ich den Beitrag absenden kann... Es gibt hier kein "Vielleicht" - ich habe gewolt den Button zum absenden gedrückt...
Da gibt man doch oft sehr schnell auf die Antwort zu posten, wenn der Fehler dann andauernd auftritt und das Absenden der Antwort dadurch fast unmöglich ist  :!: :!: :!:

BTW: Der Fehler ist auch beim Absendeversuch von diesem Beitrag aufgekommen  :evil:

Könntest du, Jan, dieses Verhalten des Forums vieleicht ändern?
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: RoadDogg on April 06, 2005, 09:48:31 AM
Das ist eine Floodcontroll, der zeitwert dafür ist bestimmt einstellbar
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: martrix on April 06, 2005, 01:29:22 PM
Ist mir schon klar, wozu es dient - da es aber so "überreagiert", hört es auf seinen Zweck zu erfüllen... 1 Beitrag ist keine Flut ;)
Title: Showcase section
Post by: alexxa on June 15, 2005, 05:53:55 PM
Just an idea (hope this is correct thread  :D).

I think that would be great if you can add forum section showcase or something like that, a place where users can post URL' s of 4images sites. So we can learn from everyone, about modifications, design, new ideas etc...

Thanks for great software.
Keep on going with your great work.

 :lol:

Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: V@no on June 15, 2005, 11:59:57 PM
4homepages.de already has such page:
http://www.4homepages.de/resources/
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: alexxa on June 16, 2005, 09:47:08 AM
Sorry  :oops: my fault. I didn't noticed it on first page.

:)
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Guerillia on July 05, 2005, 11:42:59 PM
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4homepages.de already has such page:
http://www.4homepages.de/resources/

A lot of Links are dead or the sites don't use 4image anymore..

What about a 'dead-link' button...
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: KurtW on July 06, 2005, 05:49:15 AM
Hi,

yes, its right !!
And allso a lot of dead links in the forum cat:Chit Chat :roll:

Gruß
Kurt
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: Jan on July 06, 2005, 09:38:29 AM
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4homepages.de already has such page:
http://www.4homepages.de/resources/

A lot of Links are dead or the sites don't use 4image anymore..

What about a 'dead-link' button...
Thanks for the suggestion. If added a small link under each entry to report dead links.

Jan
Title: Re: New forum software
Post by: mawenzi on July 06, 2005, 10:19:53 AM
Report Dead Link ... that is a very good solution !

mawenzi